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Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby platinumsteel on Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:38 am

Hi I was shopping around for some great instructional dvds and came across this pro player called bert kinister...Does anyone have any of his videos?Are they great videos to learn new techniques?I am interested mostly in the Volume 12 Might x which teaches you to use all english accurately which is my main concern.and round the clock which teaches to use the rail.So can anyone give me some info of what they heard or tried about bert's videos....thinking about purchasing a couple copies of his videos....
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Postby BECue on Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:59 pm

IMO, no. Bert Kinister videos are not worth the money. I have several of his videos and I found only 1 to be any good. The first volume - 60 minute workout for 9 ball. The rest are not very good and I think Bert Kinister is just making as many videos as he can to maximize his profit. Some of his videos are even flat out wrong. I bought his video about aiming and another video about secrets of long hard shots and I cannot believe how he can even teach that stuff... it is totally wrong. I also have the mighty x and this one is okay except that he talks and talks just to make the video 1 hour long when he could have easily just explained the thing in detail in 10 minutes. I wasted a lot of money on Kinister but his first video was great so it made up for the rest, I guess.
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Postby badandy on Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:09 pm

i have one or two and not real seised about them either.
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Postby geno368 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:17 pm

I have most of them and the earlier tapes are his best..the later ones are mostly BS and he repeats himself at least 2 times on every word he speaks...Just for profit...
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Postby vincent on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:05 am

i own a couple of his videos, i noticed when he wants to convey a point, it takes him a whole hour to teach just one shot....
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby greg9ball on Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:57 pm

I have always been very happy with Bert Kinister videos. Bert's videos go into great detail into the given subject matter. There are very few teachers who have Bert's depth of knowledge. I've never purchased one of his videos that I did not feel that I got my money's worth. There are several of his videos that I have watched again and again. Great stuff! Highly recommended!
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby cuebuilder on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:07 pm

I took lessons from Bert and found him to be a knowledgable and excited about pool. His videos should be watched several times to get the full benefit. His videos are really some of the best around. Knowing Bert also puts a twist on the videos. Its a little easier to understand what he is trying to teach. I probably would be still taking lessons from him if we still lived closer together. Since we don't, the videos are great.
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby leemo on Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:14 am

Bert's videos are the best on the market his 9-ball workout, the X and others are must haves for anone who likes to practice the right way and not just bang balls around. His videos and personal instruction took Niels Fien and Tony Robles to the top of the pool world. They are not just instructive but entertaining
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby poolbanger on Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:19 pm

I have almost all of Bert's videos, except the ones that he has released in the last 2 or 3 years. I have vols 1 - 69. Bert's videos are not cheap, but most of the videos do contain at least some valuable information that will improve your pool game if you practice what he shows you. Almost all of Bert's videos do contain some valuable information that will improve your pool game if you take the time to practice what he teaches.

HIs first video, Volume 1, "The 60 Minute Workout for 9-ball and 8-ball, is excellent. He gives you 27 shots, most of which repeatedly come up in 9-ball. I do these drills frequently, and they have definitely improved my 9-ball game. I highly recommend this video.

Volume 3, "Secret 9-ball knowledge is also a very good video. Once you learn the shots from volume 1, volume 3 does a good job showing you how to become a more consistent run out player in 9-ball. I do these drills often also, and they have been very beneficial to my 9-ball game.

Bert also has 8 instructional videos featuring Don Feeney, which I have, and I think they are excellent. I refer to them all the time and they have greatly improved my pool knowledge, and increased my ability to make certain shots.

Also, If and only if you're a fairly good pool player, the equivalent of a skill level 6 or above player in the APA, Bert is a very good instructor to take private lessons from if you're in the Dallas area.
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby snookerd on Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:58 pm

Everyone plays pool for a different reason! If you play pool an hour a month then Bert's videos are not for you!
If you are SERIOUS about pool and/or have dreams about playing at a professional level, then you will want
to see ALL of Bert's videos. If you already ARE a professional then you will pick and choose particular
topic videos to fine tune some specific aspect of your game. Some videos have Bert torturing Neils Feijen (top pro)
and I'm sure his game went up a notch after perfecting what Bert taught him with the camera on AND off. The videos
are unedited, everything is live, so there is no trick photography...some shots are missed but you get the knowledge. The
videos are instructional and entertaining but Bert also challenges you to do the work if you are serious about your game.
Bert provides the tools to unlock your potential. He is the finest and most accessible pro pool instructor...you can call him and ask
questions and you can even get lesson(s) in person at an extremely affordable rate. It all depends on why you play pool, why you
seek instruction, what are you trying to fix, and what your pool goals are!
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby mKozomara on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:06 pm

Bert's first video is great and his star-pattern videos are priceless. Some of his videos seem a little empty but the information is worth the price. You're not going to watch a video and immediately get better. Everyone on this site probably already knows that.
I see his critics all over the web. People talk about him "maximizing profit" like he's living in some huge house in the Hills laughing at all the suckers! Come to Hawley's in Dallas and meet the man for yourself. He's a genuine, knowledgeable and enthusiastic person. He's brilliant in more than just pool.

Yes, he repeats himself. He's weird, who cares? He's exactly the same way in personal instruction. It's like having a motivational speaker. He looks for the right words to use for you. That unfortunately doesn't come across well on camera.
He's not a professional video editor. He's a professional pool instructor.
The information is gold. If you don't get it - maybe you should call or email (bertkinister@msn.com) him to ask why.

His instruction is amazing. He doesn't steer you wrong. If you find a better instructor, then good for you - go for it. There is no #1 right way. He teaches technique to find the stroke that fits your unique anatomy and he offers drills to refine it and learn the table. He teaches from personal experience. As he told me before, he's tried all the short cuts and he never made it to Granny's house. :)



If you actually WANT you to improve your game, if you put in the work and follow his drills, it's totally worth it. Bert's an absolute gem and his instructional videos are fantastic. Buy one or three at a time and really work through the content.

If you want to passively watch a video to gain insight into your game - these are not the ones for you.
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby Frank S on Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:17 am

I have viewed most of Bert's videos and found them to be informative and helpful in improving my game. I do not regret buying any of his videos and found that they were a good value. When I go back and watch a video for a second or third time; some point or comment Bert makes will suddenly register and make a lot of sense. If you could download into your brain all the knowledge on his videos and then execute what he teaches, you can become a great player. If a person is really serious about bringing up their game; then in addition to his videos, I would recommend that they take some instruction from Bert; I have and it really improved my game. He has a depth of knowledge of the game, with the "hands on experience" of playing at a high level. As a result, he is able to tailor his instruction to where you need help; rather than "cookie cutter" lessons from an instruction book. He is not "out to make a quick buck", if you ask him after your lesson, "When should I come back for another lesson", his reply is always "You will know when you are ready".
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby MichaelS on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:45 pm

I just have a few things to say about Bert Kinister.

I have several videos from Bert Kinister over the many years of my pool career. I find the content and quality of his instruction to be very valuable and quite informative. I've had the privilege of taking lessons from Bert--about 24 hours worth. I went from a B- to a middle B to (on my good days) B+ player. He found a flaw on some of my fundamentals and said that to "fix" that will take work. He doesn't BS. He put my right to work. He found a way to not breaking a bad habit but rather make a new habit. He makes you work! After about 2 weeks of using his "fix" that flaw hasn't cropped since.

From what I gather on his videos and lessons, he finds something that needs to be worked on or something that he figured out, he wishes to convey that to his audience mainly us the ever knowledge hungry pool players. I remember distinctly on one of his tapes he wishes to "further our billiard education". Now isn't that what we pool players want?? For example, there is a type of a shot he calls the sucker shot where you cut down the rail and miss it. The object ball rattles and stays by the pocket. What he discussed and demonstrated is to slightly over cut the shot instead of into the rail and what happens is the cue ball misses and comes back up in the middle of the rail between corner and side pocket and cue ball on the opposite side rail leaving your opponent nothing. That lesson was simple. If you have to miss, miss wisely and leave your opponent high and dry. This was a few major gems that I have learned from Bert that has stayed with me for years and I use that technique constantly on my league play. This has saved my skin many times.

Next point on his style of teaching. Some of you may feel that he repeats himself. He has to to ensure that you understand what he is trying to teach. As once a teacher myself, sometimes you have to repeat a point not in the same words but using different examples and saying the point in a different way. When he did this when I took lessons from him, he broke something down so completely it was almost too simple. He then said now combine that with everything for this idea or shot and see what happens. I would see the light bulb turn on and it would make complete sense.

And finally his lessons.

When I went to take lessons from Bert, I had no idea of what to expect. I was quite nervous! After a few minutes of watching me pocket a few balls he said "Ok stop. I see something that needs fixed." He tailored the instructions, drills, and technique to ME. After a few months of practice and more hours with Bert, my game has improved to a new level. Not long after the lessons, I earned my MVP in Chicago Bud Leagues. Talk about improvement! There is a drill that he had me to improve the stroke that I still use to this day on my 9 foot Olhausen at home (got last fall finally!).

Thank you Bert for the tapes and lessons (If i can get the time to come back someday). :clap: Keep up the good work and keep making those very difficult tapes such as the ladder and 9 star. I'm still trying to master that one!

My fellow pool players, give Bert a chance. He is a warehouse of knowledge and experience that he is willing to share and teach to those who are willing to work for it.

thank you
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby Red Witch on Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:28 pm

Rather you are a beginner, average, or seeking to reach the next level in your pool game Bert Kinister's variety of pool video's are the best out there. #1 suits all beginner and advance players. Many of the shots shown come up time and time again in nine-ball. Also it demonstrates how to control the cue ball and the importance of ensuring the cue ball runs through the center of the table after pocketing the ball because if you do this you will never ever scratch. I was one of the lucky ones that had Bert has a scotch double partners, in Reno, a few years back and of course we won. Without Bert's instructions I would never have known that for the last 15 years I was unable to hit the center of the cueball. I was completley flabbergasted and with his help he has straighten out my stroke and my game has vastly improved. Just like any sport there are no quick fixes but if you are dedicated and really want to become a better player then his video's will get you there. It is up to you to work hard and practice correctly. A true pool player will know the value of Bert's DVD's just ask the #1 professional pool player Neils Feijen.
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Re: Bert Kinister Videos...good choice?

Postby BECue on Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:33 pm

leemo wrote:His videos and personal instruction took Niels Fien and Tony Robles to the top of the pool world.


Says who? Niels and Tony were already on top of the pool world even before they signed up to do the Kinister videos. Give me a break... Kinister had nothing to do with how good Niels and Tony are.
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